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~Parents/Patients Helping Each Other~ Dystrophic Page
EB is a rare condition, most Drs do not even know
what it is, and very few have treated patients, hence rarely can they
tell a parent how they can care for their newborn. Even when they can,
they often refer the parents to another parent! When Nicky was born the
Dermatologist brought in another mom to 'show me' how it's done! Even a
Dr. at Stanford referred Sheri Coil to me so that I could learn how to
wrap Nicky! Parents and Patients truly need each other.
It's also important to remember that different forms of EB
require very much different care, because the wounds are
different. This is why this page started. The information is all
volunteer from willing parents/patients, who do not need to reveal their
identity.
The only advice I truly have regarding
using information regarding medicines is to contact the patient's Dr.
first to make sure there is no harmful side effects that might be okay
for one patient, but not another, and also to be aware of drug
interactions.
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Filling out form:
Parent/Caregiver
Email: ebmommie@snet.net
Country: USA
Patient name/age:
Jonathan G. 3 years old
Form of EB: Jonathan
has Recessive Dystrophic EB doctors believe it to be non Hallopeau
Siemens. Jonathan has a moderate involvement mostly on his hands,
elbows, knees, feet and back.
Used for Itching: Have
tried Claritin in the past with little success. Currently we are using:
Atarax (generic version)1 to 2 tsp. 10 MG at
bedtime Doxepin 3 cc 10MG at bedtime Promethazine 1 tsp. 6.25 MG at bedtime all can be used during the daytime but may cause
drowsiness I try to use distraction as much as possible.
Laxatives used: When Jonathan was an infant
prune juice worked well. Have tried Lactulose with some good results for
a while currently using Miralax which works very well for him I give him
2 tsp. but have to alter the doses at times.
Esophagus/Mouth:
Jonathan currently has an oral aversions so he will not let me brush
his teeth or do any oral care. We have been taking him to a pediatric
dentist every 3 months and he has a speech therapist who is working on
the aversion
Misc. Medicines used: We give Jonathan Prilosec
1 tsp. 2 times a day 2 MG for reflux
Important Hints:
Keeping areas moist helps with healing and keeping the house cool
seems to help with itching.
Hints for babies (diaper):
As a baby and still we use Huggies Supremes. For cleaning I use
wipes making sure they are pretty moist. For times when the stool is
dried on I put baby oil on the wipes to help loosen the stool. Then put
a heavy coat of Desitin over bottom, front and hips to help with any
wounds and from friction.
Misc Hints for babies:
Did not bath Jonathan often as a baby sponged bathed mostly until he
could sit really well in tub' then we used a blow up tub you put in the
regular tub and surrounded him with towels. I have always given Jonathan
a bath with all bandages on then taken them off afterwards.
Hints for babies (feeding): As a baby Jonathan
was on similac with iron we used a Haberman feeder bottle, at 4 months
started on baby cereals did better with Rice others caused constipation.
He later started on regular baby foods. At one years old Jonathan
refused everything but his bottle so we started him on pediasure. He has
not eaten any solid foods since one years old.
What patient eats now: At 2 years old we had to
put in a G-tube for Jonathan to get proper nutrition. He gets in his
Gtube 3 cans of Kindercal (250 cals) and 1 can Nutrifocus (350c cals)
the only thing he takes by mouth is Water from a cup.
Misc Supplies used: Nursing care ointment by smith and nephew (ref #
448200) used on scared areas, red areas to used for moisture. Emu oil used for open areas, red areas, blisters
and scars. Desitin used for red raw open oozy
wounds
Products used for Wound care: Flexicon elastic gauze bandage 2" (ref # 2220) used
to wrap arms and feet 1" (ref # 2210) used to
wrap hands Kendall versilon all purpose sponge
(ref # 8044) 4x4's used for padding elbows,
feet, and knees Tubifast cotton tubular bandage
sizes go by a color code. Green size (ref # 2436) used for arms, feet
and hands. Blue size (ref # 2438) used for legs Brown size (ref# 2442)
used for chest Mepitel 4x8 (ref # 291010) used
on blisters and red areas Mepilex 4x8 (ref #
2942904) used on raw open and oozy wounds Coban
3" 3m (ref # 1583) used for upper thighs I make
my own Vaseline gauze with the tubifast, I cut approx. size I need and
coat in Vaseline. I use this for all wounds especially hands, elbows,
knees and feet.
Wrapping Instructions: I start with putting Mepitel on all red areas or
newly popped blister then I apply Nursing care ointment and emu oil, on
bad wounds that are oozy I use Mepilex coated with Desitin. I follow
that by applying my Vaseline gauze over entire wound, then I start
wrapping with 2" Flexicon starting at the wrist using a 4x4 versilon
gauze sponge on elbow and wrapping up to the top of arm. I then put on
the green colored tubifast to hold bandages in place. Hands: First I apply
Nursing care ointment and emu oil I then take my home made Vaseline
gauze cutting a hole for the thumb. Slide it over the hand making sure
thumb is through the hole. Then I start wrapping with 1" Flexicon
starting at wrist to secure it then going around thumb 2 times then
around each finger 2 times (I leave finger tips out) making sure to pull
each finger back not forward with 1" Flexicon, I then go in-between each
finger from top of hand to palm this takes 2 1" Flexicon bandages once I
have done that I take a 2" Flexicon going around the hand to secure the
1" also making sure the palm is well bandaged and padded. Chest and Back: I first
put on Mepitel on any red areas or blister (Mepilex coated with Desitin
for bad wounds), then put on nursing care ointment and emu oil after
that I cut 1 small piece of the brown colored tubifast cut it so it fits
from under the arm pits to below the belly button tucking them both into
the diaper and cutting a hole for his Gtube to come out. After that I
cut another brown tubifast so it fits from the neck down to past the
belly button, I cut out holes in the sides for his arms making look like
a tank top t-shirt also cutting a hole so I can get to the Gtube. The
Tubifast hole on any Mepitel or Mepilex I use. Feet: I first apply
Mepitel to any wounds (Mepilex coated with Desitin to bad wounds) then
apply nursing care ointment and emu oil to all wounds I then put on my
own made Vaseline gauze around entire foot my Vaseline gauze is tubular
so it goes on like a sock. I then take 1 versilon 4x4 gauze sponge to
the top of foot and one to the heel and back of leg. I then use a 2"
Flexicon bandage and wrap ankle and entire foot. I take a second 2"
Flexicon started at the back of leg coming up over the toes then up to
ankle and around ankle and foot. Legs: I first start by apply Mepitel to all
wounds (Mepilex coated with Desitin to bad wounds) then coat with
nursing care ointment and emu oil then I cut a blue colored tubifast to
fit from ankle to hip. then I wrap coban 3" around thigh to secure the
tubifast. I then cut another piece of blue colored tubifast to go from
toes to up a little over knee I put that on with two 4x4 versilon
sponges on the knee. the tubifast secures the 4x4's. The tubifast
secures bandages on the feet. I then put on a regular sock.
Does the Insurance pay for supplies: Yes
Name of your insurance company: Anthem Blue
Cross Blue Shield of CT
Who pays for supplies:
For things not covered by insurance Title 5 Children with special health
care needs covers most other things.
Do you know of local
Doctors familiar with EB you could recent: Yes ebmommie@snet.net
City and State of
where these Drs are: New Britain, CT and Hartford, CT USA
Comments: Give your child alot of love, don't
be afraid to touch your baby you most likely with cause a blister or
torn skin in your child's life don't let it get you down you are doing
your best. Let your child be themselves and let them set there own
limits don't force limits.
Filling out form:
Parent/Caregiver
Email: lanaesq@msn.com
Country: USA
Patients names: Corey
C. 9, Alex C. 8 and Brandi C. 7
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic - Hallopeau Siemens Corey and Alex
are very severe while Brandi is not as involved. See clinical
pictures.
Used for Itching: Atarax at prescribed amount
and increased dosage of 10cc during bandage change. Seems to help
with, but does not eliminate, itching.
Laxatives used: Miralax
at less (about 1/2) than prescribed amount due to stools becoming "too
soft"
Esophagus/Mouth: Have used Carafate in the
past, but with no success. Chlorhexidine Gluconate, oral rinse used
twice a day. Teeth are wiped with cotton applicator to remove
buildup. Dental surgery has been required to fill cavities (Corey) and
removed decayed baby teeth (Alex)
Misc. Medicines used:
Lortab for pain, DuoCal for extra calories, Scandi Shakes for nutrition,
Pediasure for liquid nutritional supplement, LacriLube for lubrication
of eyes (and periodically the nose to prevent nose bleed due to
dryness)
Important Hints: Baby Oil has been among the
best hints we have been given. It helps in removing scabs from
ears and sticky bandages from wounds. The kids ask for it.
What patient eats now: Primarily Pediasure,
although all three will eat just about anything else that is not too
difficult to chew or too spicy. Favorite foods
include: Lots of milkshakes (with supplements)and ice cream, Cottage
cheese, Cheese (cream and cheddar), Apples dipped in caramel, Cheetoes
and other chips. Foods liked but difficult to
swallow: Nuts, Watermelon, Macaroni and Cheese, Meat
Misc Supplies used: Cosmetic sponges to apply topical medications (very
soft and can be tossed to eliminate spread of infection) Disposable 2oz cups used for medications and lotion
to avoid contamination of product (scooped out with tongue depressor
which is then tossed) Vaseline and Neosporin
blended by pharmacy until very fluffy (heat slightly with blow dryer for
even easier application). Pharmacist has recently begun to add
color "just for fun." Blow dryer used to dry and
warm kids after bath Baby Oil to remove scabs
and sticky bandages
Products used for Wound care: Underpads for changing dressing Pull-ups for both lack of bowel movement control
and as disposable underwear that can be cut to remove. Kendall Conform, 3" for wrapping arms Kendall Conform, 4" for wrapping legs and
torso Webril used over Vaseline gauze and
under conform Kerlix used as padding on
legs and torso between conform and SOF Kling (currently not using do to
extreme heat of summer) SOF Kling, 4" used
as final layer of gauze over Kerlix Elastomull,
1" used to wrap hands Vaseline Gauze, 6"
first layer used on all wounds and areas prone to breakdown. Vaseline Gauze, 3" " " Vaseline Gauze, 1" used on Corey's hands Tubegauze, Size 6 final dressing layer for
legs and arms to hold dressings in place Tubegauze, Size 11 final dressing layer for
torso to hold dressings in place. Mepitel,
4x8 used on severe wounds as needed Mepilex, 6x6 used on severe wounds as
needed Coban, 2" used to secure gauze on
feet and upper arms Coban, 3"
" " Coban,
4" used to secure gauze on thighs and torso Cowrap, 2" used to secure gauze on
wrists/hands
Wrapping Instructions: Following are instructions sent with the kids when
they attended Camp Wonder: Dressing to be
changed a minimum of QOD with the following procedures: Pain Medications: Brandi:
rarely needed. Children’s Motrin if requested by her. Alex:
Children’s Motrin and Atarax ½ hour prior to dressing
change Corey: Lortab and Atarax ½ hour prior to
dressing change Handling: Lift by placing
one arm/palm under back of legs (above knee) and the other on the upper
back. The idea is for them to lay in your arms like a chair to
avoid friction. The skin can tolerate pressure, but not
friction. NEVER grab under or by the arms. In fact, avoid
use of your fingers in lifting as they are often the culprits that cause
blisters. Removal of Dressings: Remove old
dressing using scissors and/or unwrapping gauze. Be careful not to
pull any areas adhered to skin (Alex and Corey will be very anxious
about this until they trust that you will not). If dressing is
adhered, gently cut around area and generously apply baby oil to
area. Let soak for awhile and then attempt to remove. If
still stuck, apply more oil and then soak in bath. If still stuck,
cut away as much as possible and leave stuck portion on skin. Bath: Soak in tub of mild Dakins solution (2
tbsp. bleach : 1 gallon water) for 20 minutes. Pour water over any
area not submerged in water. Use fresh water for hair, face and
final rinse. Gently lay towel over shoulders, but DO NOT rub
dry. Pat gently with towel and use blow dryer to dry all areas
(keep dryer moving or it will burn!) Note:
do not leave them sitting on towel for very long. Terry sticks to
open wounds and is very difficult to remove. Sit them on pads
provided or put Vaseline gauze under their bottoms. Give the
children warning before lifting from tub and table, so that they can get
“unstuck.” Wound Care: 1. Using fine scissors gently trim dry, flaky, dead
skin that would irritate or poke under new bandages. 1. Using fine scissors and/or needle, puncture any
blisters in a way that will allow the blister to drain. The
children know where there blisters are and can tell you which need to be
popped. 1. Beginning with upper body, generously
apply premixed Vaseline and Neosporin ointment to all open areas and
areas where gauze or pull up may adhere to skin. (Put ointment
into plastic cups with wooden tongue depressor and for the
child’s comfort and easy application, warm ointment with hair
dryer. Use soft make-up sponge to apply on skin.) Dressing Order: 1. Apply a
layer of Vaseline gauze to all open areas (including Corey’s
fingers). 2. Follow with Webril, Conform, Kerlix
and Sof-Kling. a. Arms: Use Webril
from wrist to armpit. Put extra on elbows while at same time
allowing movement. Next, use 3” gauze starting at wrist
working up to underarm. Add precut padding (with sheet of
6” Vaseline gauze over Webril), Webril side up, to underarm
and secure with 3” gauze around upper arm (middle of pad
should lay as smooth as possible in the armpit). Work back down to
wrist (will secure after hands are wrapped). b. Brandi and Alex’s Hands:
Do not require Vaseline gauze unless they have a fresh wound. Use
1” gauze. Start around wrist and then proceed to
thumb. Wrap several times around and then go around wrist
again. Move to next finger and so on until each finger is
wrapped. Finish by wrapping between each finger, wrapping around
wrist in-between. Secure both arm and hand gauze with Cowrap
around wrist. c. Corey’s
Hands: Wrap a strip of 1” Vaseline gauze over tip of
finger/thumb. Use additional piece (or two) to wrap around
finger/thumb. Use additional layers as needed to cover palm and
back of hand. Next, place layers of precut Webril over tips.
Finish with 1” gauze as instructed for Alex and Brandi
above. (Corey’s hands are very difficult!! Hang in there). d. Torso: Start with 4” soft
gauze over Webril. Figure 8 around shoulders and work down torso
(requires 2 rolls). Follow same pattern with Kerlix and
“hard” gauze. Be careful not to wrap too
tightly under arms – leave room for movement. Secure
with 4” Coban around torso and 2”or 3”
around upper arm. e. Legs: same
order of bandages as torso. Start at toe leaving extra which can
be folded down to protect toes. Work towards thigh as far as you
can go. Extra Kerlix can work down again towards knee. Be
careful too leave dressings loose enough to allow bending of knees. 3. Final layer is tube stretch gauze
(precut). Small gauze with cuts for thumbs over the arm.
Longer small tube gauze is for legs. Larger pieces crisscross over
the torso (open like a sock with spilt side up. Insert arm through
tube, head and other arm goes through the spilt, pull down. Do
same with other side) 4. Place Vaseline gauze on
exposed wounds around waist and legs before putting on pull-up. 5. Often the children will have difficulty walking
after a change and may request a “boost” (carried to
next location) as they are sore.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: Yes
Name of your insurance company: Medical and
California Children's Services
Filling out form:
Parent/Caregiver
Patient name: Nicky Z.
10 years old
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic-Hallopeau Siemens, medium to severe. Involvement includes
esophageal dilatations and hand surgeries.
Used for Itching:
Benadryl / Atarax / Hydroxizine
Laxatives used: Milk of
Magnesia, Senokot, Miralax, Enulose
Esophagus/throat medicines
used: Prescription strength Zantac
Other Medicines used:
multivitamins, iron, zinc
Important Hints: using
bleach in his bath. I do not take his bandages off until he gets out of
the bath, and I take them off and replace one at a time. Because of the
Bleach Nicky has never needed to be on antibiotics, the bleach kills
all.
Hints for babies (diaper):
Huggies Supremes, then Huggies Ultratrim
Misc Hints for babies:
basically lots of sheepskins
Hints for babies
(feeding): We exclusively used Haberman Feeder nipples, we tried
others, but they were the only ones that did not give him mouth
blisters. I pumped milk until I could, then I gave him formula with
extra powder for calories. We then started to add other things to the
formula, such as heavy cream, oils etc.
What patient eats now:
Nicky's throat is so compromised that he has to be tube fed. I give him
4/5 cans of Nutren 1.5 by Nestle' overnight at 100 cc an hour. He can
eat mushy things by mouth, puddings and yogurt etc.
Misc Supplies used: I
used knee pads for Nicky when he started crawling and also for his
elbows. I also used those tennis wrists for his elbows, they worked
great. Pedors are the shoes he wears, or misc. slippers that are easy to
put on.
Products used for Wound
care: Vaseline Gauze: used on all wounds
and healed wounds that are still 'red'
Xeroform (R#433500): used on all wounds that smell
as possibly infected
Molnlycke Mepitel: Used on wounds that seem to have
a hard time healing Molnlycke Mepilex: Used on
nasty wounds that seep a lot and wounds that need extra padding, such as
knees and ankles.
Kendall Conform Stretch Bandage 2in (R#2231): used
to wrap feet and hands because of softness over Vaseline gauze, and on
some areas, over Webril.
J&J Soft-Kling 3in (R#6993): Used over Vaseline
gauze or over arms and armpits to cover wounds or to protect skin from
injuries.
J&J Soft-Kling 4in (R#6994): Used over Vaseline
gauze or over legs and chest to cover wounds or to protect skin from
injuries.
Kendall Webril Undercast Padding 4in (R#3175): used
over Vaseline gauze in areas that need extra padding-such as feet, knees
and elbows.
Kendall Kerlix 4.5in (R#6715): Used over regular
gauze for padding on chest.
Kendall Kerlix 2.25in (R#6720): Used over regular
gauze on bottom of feet for padding.
Tubegauze (R#58076 for size 4): used over gauze to
keep everything in place in arms and legs, a larger size for
torso.
Precisionglide Needle (R#305125): to burst
blisters
Zinc Oxide 40% (various, found mostly in diaper
rash creams): spread over wounds that have a hard time
healing
Aquaphor: Used for extra moisture under Vaseline
gauze on wounds
Smith & Nephew Protective Ointment (R#448200):
I use this blue cream a lot on all healed red areas to get the skin to
regain some strength. It also helps to get rid of
scars.
Wrapping Instructions:
HANDS: I follow the instructions on this
website.
CHEST AND ARMPITS: I follow the instructions on
this website.
LEGS & ARMS: I start by putting Aquafor on
wounds, protective ointment on all red areas and zinc oxide over Mepitel
if there are areas that have a hard time healing. I then cover all
wounds and red areas with Vaseline gauze. I then take some Webril and
cover elbows/knees and any area that Nicky might be prone to scratch so
the softness will make it hard to open a wound, and then cover
everything with J&J gauze, 3in for arms, 4in for legs. I then cover
with the Tubegauze.
FEET: I start by putting either Aquafor, Zinc Oxide
(on bad wounds that are not healing) or Protective Ointment, on all the
red or raw areas. I follow by covering the entire foot with Vaseline
gauze (Xeroform on areas that might be infected or smell bad) I then
cover entire foot with one layer of Webril, except the ankle part, where
I usually put the Mepilex. I then pad the bottom, toes and ankle with
some 2.25in Kendall Kerlix (not a whole roll), wrap the entire foot with
one roll of 2in Kandall, Conform 2in stretch bandage. It might seem like
a lot, but with all this padding Nicky can run and even jump, and rarely
has any new blisters!
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: No
Name of your insurance
company: Aetna, California
Who pays for supplies:
CCS-California Children Services
City and State of where
these Drs are: Bakersfield/Lancaster, California
Filling out form:
Patient Email: bgunn33@tiptontel.com or nascar3324@yahoo.com Country: USA Patient's name: Bruce
A. Gunn, 35 Form of
EB: Recessive Dystrophic-Hallopeau Siemens My involvement would be scarring all over my body,
fingers are webbed together, except for my thumbs, keeps me very
independent & functional to be able to do my own dressings, normal
daily activities, from dressing myself to cooking & driving. I have
sores mostly on my arms, hands, knees, legs, thighs, back, waist and
feet. Occasional have sore on my neck & shoulders. Used for Itching: I do
itch at times, but not as bad as some of my fellow RDEB/HS EBers who are
worse off in itching than I am. If I use an cream is Benadryl Cream and
usually on my face for a rash or I get redness. Laxatives used: I don't
have very much problems now, but did as a child. Now if I take my Upper
B complex and my Liquid Vitamins (Biometics), then I stay regular
without having to much problems. Esophagus/Mouth: I take Nexium for my reflux
and for my esophagus / throat on a daily basis. I use Crest Toothpaste
for brushing my teeth, and Scope for mouthwash, and Prevent by Colgate
for plaque use prescribed by my Dentist. Misc. Medicines used: I take Biometics, which
is a liquid vitamins that makes swallowing easier and absorb the
vitamins alot more than pill forms. The usual vitamin A,B,C. If
interested in liquid vitamins, you would need to go through me to get it
& if you want information. Not sold in stores. What patient eats now:
I ate soft food, but really ate a normal diet, always high in calories,
I never had a g-tube in my life. I have had throat problems swallowing
in 1980 that put me in hospital. There time I couldn't eat anything, but
could eat Pizza King pizza. I had lots of milkshake & drink Jello
(warm) is my favorite. I drink boost from time to time, but not as much,
only when I'm in the mood. Been drinking alot of milkshakes lately,
because they taste good to me. I eat red meat, chicken, veggies, fruits,
and anything soft, tender and good!!. I have a steak recipe on my
website: http://www.geocities.com/bruceandeb Misc Supplies used: I use my own judgment to wrapping what ointments
& dressings, depending on the areas. I use the Mepilex dressings on
my back, butt or hard to wrap areas. Seem to stay in place without
wrapping the areas, specially my neck, and upper things. I cut Mepilex
into pieces if need me depending on the area, like my shoulder blade or
my back. I use the Mepilex Border the same way. I use Xeroform alot, and
really works well for me. I double it to keep it moist, been using
Xeroform for about two years now, and it helps keep my infection under
control and prevents anymore serious problems. Products used for Wound
care: I use all sorts of dressings &
ointment now. Before my mom made my dressings out of top sheets on beds
and used Bacitracin Ointment & Sayman Save for 30 years, until I
started getting non-healing wounds & ended up getting skin cancer
(SCC). Now I use, Xeroform (yellow dressing), Vaseline dressings, the
Mepilex & Mepilex Border products are been out for couple of years
now. I use Telfa pad, sizes 3x4 in. and 3x8 in., Adaptic dressing made
by Kendall or Aquaphor Gauze, sizes 3x4 in. or 3x8 in. Ointments: I use
Bacitracin, Triple Antibiotic ointment, Bactroban, and Aquafor Ointment.
I never stay with one ointment very long, I alternate and use Bactroban
for one week and go off of it for awhile. I use good judgment and very
careful not using it for very long. I use soft-kling gauze for bandaging
my arms, hands, and feet. I use name brand Ace's to wrap my legs, knees,
and thighs. You can re-wash them and reuse them. Ace Brand hold up much
better and longer in the washer and dryer. I use the 6 in. for my thighs
and knees, cover a wide area. 4 in. size for lower legs & my feet,
and use 3 in. as protection on my right arm & hand. Hold better in
place. I have mom split them in half and sew the ends up to get two out
of one ace for all sizes. I love the Versalon Gauze sponges for protects
& padding. Wrapping
Instructions: I keep everything simple when
wrapping and everything else in general. I buy things for convenience,
may cost more but well worth it. Does the Insurance pay for supplies: Yes Name of your insurance
company: American Community Ins. Co. in Indiana Do you know of local
Doctors familiar with EB you could recent: Yes bgunn33@tiptontel.com or nascar3324@yahoo.com City and State of where
these Drs are: Indianapolis, Indiana
Filling out form:
Parent/Caregiver
Patient name: Anthony 6
months, Michael 29 years, Veronica 5 years
Form of EB: Dominant
Dystrophic, AJ and Michael Are medium , Veronica is
mild
Used for Itching:
I use the Aveeno baby lotion. Sounds silly, but it works on all of
them, it moisturizes the skin for a full 24 hours, and helps keep
itching away really well. And you can use as much as you want, it won't
hurt them.
Laxatives used: We use
a couple of different things for BM. First we try a Collace
suppository, only half is needed for AJ and Veronica. If that doesn't
work we use Prune juice. Be careful, only use about 2 ounces on babies,
or you could have a mess on your hands. If that doesn't work we use
Senokot for kids, the chocolate flavor. 1 teaspoon is good for 4 year
old Veronica.
Esophagus/throat medicines
used: Anthony has very bad acid reflux, the doctor put him on
2ml of Zantac. As he gains weight the dosage increases. It works very
well. It also helps with their kind of EB to add cereal to the formula
to make it thicker. It's easier to hold down. AJ has been on cereal
since he is 2 weeks old. That will explain why he is 25 pounds at 6
months old.
Important Hints:
Wrapping the thigh is a hard thing to do, because the wrap rolls
down. Cut off the top of your husbands sock, and slide it on to
the baby's thigh, it holds the bandage in place!!
Hints for babies (diaper):
When Veronica was a baby we used Huggies Supreme diapers, they
seemed not to bother her skin, but AJ huggies didn't work, so he is in
pampers cruisers, they are soft, and tend not to tear his skin, not
always though, sometimes the better choice is cloth diapers. My
suggestion would be to try it all, see what's best for your
child.
Misc Hints for
babies: Be so careful bathing babies with EB. A normal
baby bathtub is not a good idea. I found out the hard way that they get
their feet caught and fingers caught, and end up with lots of tears in
the skin. A bleach bath is good for them, takes away infection. I use a
capful to every bath. Be careful not to get it in the eyes. Never lift a
baby with EB from under the arms, that can tear the skin. always lift
with one hand under the head and the other hand under the butt.If your
afraid the baby will get hurt from others holding it, say no!! Babies
can get hurt and probably will.
Hints for babies
(feeding): AJ had a bad case of constipation, so he was on
Similac with low iron until he was 4 months old. But because of the acid
reflux, he was on cereal in every bottle. One teaspoon of cereal to
every ounce of formula. But only oatmeal or barley. the others tend not
to be thick enough, and can sometimes cause allergic
reactions.
What patient eats now:
AJ eats any type of baby food, and even snacks on the Gerber
cookies. He won't take it if he's got a blister or sore in his mouth.
Veronica can eat anything, but when she has sores or blisters we stay
away from anything that can make it worse, like something hard to chew,
or any drinks with acid in them. Sometimes it's better at that point to
give them soup with water or milk.
Products used for Wound
care: 3M nexcare compfort strips 1 7/8in x
4in, for knees and elbows. Or any big blisters that hard hard to wrap.
3M nexcare comfort strips 1in x 3in used for
small blisters or toes and fingers. Johnson
& Johnson triple layer non-stick gauze pad used to cover large
blisters and wounds. Mueller foam wrap used to
wrap bandages. Very good product, easy tear makes it easier not to wrap
to tight. Phizer neosporin used to treat
infected areas. A&D ointment used to treat
areas without infection. Johnson & Johnson
baby oil used to remove bandaids. It is never good to use bandaids
on EB children, but when it is a must, before removing the bandaid,
saturate it in baby oil and let the baby oil remove the adhesive. DO NOT
ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE BANDAID WITHOUT THE BABY OIL, YOU WILL TEAR THE
SKIN!! Small pair of sharp scissors for cutting
the blister. With DDEB popping the blister with a lancet can make the
blister worse.
Wrapping Instructions:
I use this method for hands, elbows, knees,
and feet: I start by sterilizing the blister by
taking an alcohol swab and gently wiping the blister with it. Then I
sterilize the scissor with alcohol. I put a triangle shape cut in the
blister and use a paper towel to carefully drain the blister. I put some
A&D or neosporin, if it's infected, on the blister area. Then I
cover it with a gauze pad (non-stick). Then I wrap it with the foam
wrap. Then I change the bandage and start over the next day. If there is
an infected or open wound, I use peroxide instead of alcohol. Keep
pouring the peroxide on it until it stop bubbling, then rinse with
water.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: No
Name of your insurance
company: Medicaid, NY
Who pays for supplies:
All supplies are paid for out of pocket. Although i am fighting
medicaid to cover the costs, at this time they are not.
City and State of where
these Drs are: Stonybrook , NY USA
Comments: Any
type of EB is horrible for a child to live with, but we as their parents
have to teach them to be strong, and don't let anyone critisize them.
Never limit your EB butterfly unless it is absolutely life threatening.
They will learn their own limitations. Teach them to believe in god, and
know that he made them this way because they are special to him, not
because they are bad children. Teach them to believe in themselves, and
always have hope for a brighter tomorrow!!! God bless all of us families
and patients!!!
Filling out form:
Patient
Patient name:
Trevor 28/ 12/ 45
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic Misc.
Medicines used: Healthy Diet (vegetarian)
Misc Hints for
babies: When my brother and I was sent home from hospital to
die (no big deal we all do it) aged two and three we were put on a very
strict diet. Fruit and vegetables etc. No lollies soft drinks junk food,
white sugar white flour. Good diet is a bonus.
What patient eats now:
Healthy diet first and foremost. Being a vegetarin has had its
most positive rewards.
Products used for Wound
care: Linseed and lots of positives.
Linseed is dirt cheap and can be bought from the health shop or bin in
in the supermarket. Lady from the health shop tells me organic is the
best but I know both work. Her recommendation was that all people should
take it E.B. or not as it's just a natural product. Personally I always
look to improving the scenario with E.B. with only those things that are
natural from nature.
Wrapping Instructions:
When I need to dress any wounds I keep it
simple. Paraffin gauze on wound covered by sterile pad and bandaged with
a crepe bandage. I avoid plasters like the plague. More trouble than
they're worth and if going into hospital I put it on my list of allergic
to. Breaking blisters at their earliest stages.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: No
Who pays for supplies:
In the last ten years or so the government has picked up the
tab
Filling out form:
Patient
Patient name: Cristina
P. Age 21
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic Hallopeau Siemens form. Moderate to severe. Includes hand
webbing, esophageal strictures, anemia..
Used for Itching: I
currently use Claratin Redi-tabs, mostly because they are so easy to
take, they dissolve. But I'm not sure it works all the time. I have
tried many itching meds when I was young and have kind of gave up now.
I've had a problem with hives recently and the Claritin also has
prevented those. When I am itchy I try to cool down, turn the air up,
eat a popsicle, etc. I also have this thing called a Chillow. It's
filled with water and when you lay on it, it cools you down. It's meant
to put on your pillow so your pillow doesn't get all hot when you're
sleeping.
Laxatives used: I have
not needed laxatives. If I'm having problems I usually eat canned pears,
they're usually pretty soft and easy to eat.
Esophagus/throat medicines
used: For days where my esophagus is really hurting because of a
sore or blister, I sometimes suck on Get Better Bear pops by Dimetapp.
They help numb the throat. For oral care I use Scope mouthwash but used
ACT mouthwash when I was younger because it doesn't sting. I look for
the smallest toothbrush I can. I recently found one made by GUM that is
meant for hard to reach areas. I also chew Trident gum to help clean
teeth.
Other Medicines used:
Sometimes liquid vitamins such as Biometics or regular multivitamin and
zinc and iron. Any lubricant for eyes, I don't have a favorite. Regular ear drops to help loosen wax when
needed.
Hints for babies
(feeding): I believe my mom said she used a regular bottle but cut
the hole bigger.
What patient eats now:
I drink Ensure. Sometimes I drink Scandi-shake. I can eat most anything
that is soft, pureed, or crunchy enough to chew up really tiny. This
does NOT include potato chips because they leave pointy edges even when
chewed. I used to have a G-tube but had too many problems with it so I
don't anymore.
Misc Supplies used:
gloves, scissors used to cut blisters, I don't know what they're called
but they're blue underpads I use to sit on while doing dressings. Paper
tape to secure bandages. I like wearing silky pajamas, it reduces
friction when I roll around. I prefer tighter clothing, makes me less
itchy. The softest shoes I had were made by Hanes but I can't seem to
find them again.
Products used for Wound
care: Kendall Conform or Sof-form Mepilex - used on almost every sore, absorbs well,
and very soft for painful sores. Mepitel -
used on new, large, oozy sores. I then put mepilex over the
mepitel Bacitracin - used on almost every
sore. I know that's bad but that's how I've done it my whole life so
it's probably more of a lubricant now but it still seems to work because
as bad as my sores are they rarely ever get infected and always heal
well. I almost never needed to use anything stronger than
Bacitracin. A&D - used on healed skin
that just needs some moisture. Alwyn cream -
used on sores that have just healed to try to keep it healed and used on
granulated (puffy) sores. Telfa, Mepilex
transfer, Mepilex Lite - all used in random places where nothing else
will work. Surgilast - to hold everything
in place.
Wrapping Instructions:
I am only bandaged usually on my torso
because my back is very bad, but rest of me is usually good. First I
shower. I don't stand under the water but the steam helps get my back
wet and I gently rinse and cut off any dead, loose skin. I use Softsoap
Bodywash to wash face and other healed areas. I like the milk and honey
kind. I'm usually in the shower for a very long time, then I get out and
pat dry. I sit in front of a little electric heater while doing
dressings so I don't freeze. First I apply lotion to everywhere that's
healed. This is very important to keep my skin from getting really dry
and flaky. My driest spots are my elbows, hands, knees and feet. I love
using Jergens Ultra Healing lotion best. For my torso I start out
applying any Mepitel if needed. It is important to put mepitel on before
the ointment, it works better. Then I apply bacitracin to all my sores
except I put Alwyn cream (not available yet) to any granulated sores.
Then I put 3 of the largest size Mepilex going down my back and a few
small ones in the front and Telfas or Mepilex Transfer or Mepilex Lite
to other places that are harder to cover such as around the neck. Then
we wrap and do a criss cross up and over my neck. We use tape to secure
the ends of the wrap. Then we use surgilast, and cut holes in it for
armholes. The bandage and surgilast covers from the top of my hips to my
neck and the back of my neck is completely covered.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: Yes
Name of your insurance
company: Medi-Cal California
City and State of where
these Drs are: San Diego, California
Comments: Please visit
my site for more information and tips. There is also information on
Anemia, esophageal problems, and EB Friendly recipes. www.ebinfo.homestead.com
Filling out form:
Patient
Patient name: Paul L
Martinez - age 21
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic Moderate. Includes hand webbing, esophageal strictures,
anemia (had to hand surgeries on both hands as child at Stanford
Children's Hospital. Used for Itching: Hydroxyzine HCL - its
liquid and helps prevent itching but mostly insomnia as well. Lot of
EBers might have trouble sleeping because it's un comfortable at times
depending on wounds. I take it once a day before i go to sleep. Laxatives used:
Docusate Syrup Laxative - It isn't really a laxative nor makes you go to
the bathroom fast such as a enema or something like that would. It's
basically a stool softer and used sparingly, not everyday, this is
because EB's take a lot of iron and iron can cause constipation problems
sometimes. Esophagus/throat medicines used: Nothing at
this time. I chew my food very very well, but have choked as a kid a lot
and sometimes I still do, however I know how to handle the choking very
calmly and manage to spit it up. I can always still breathe if I choke,
however I do plan to see a doctor soon to do an x-ray or something.
.
Other Medicines used: I
take iron pills called Ferrous Sulfate - film coated 325 mg. I take this
3 times a day after every meal I eat. The pills are very small and
manageable to swallow. However if you are unable or scared to swallow as
I am sometimes, just let the pill get mushy in your mouth for awhile,
then crunch it , it will break up, drink some water or apple juice and
swallow it whole and that's it, theirs no after taste or anything. It
really beats taking the nasty liquid form of iron
minerals!
Hints for babies
(diaper): my mom used Huggies when I was a baby. Tape is fine as
long as the tape is not close to the skin, and don't put it real too
tight. Misc Hints for
babies: bathing, use a non perfumed soap, pure soap like ivory, the
perfume soap is not that good for the skin. If your baby has a fresh
skin wound, cold water would hurt a lot, I can't speak for all EBers but
warm water feels a lot better on the wounds than cold water. As their toddlers and kids, cut all their food up
real good like meat. Raw products such as lettuce and tomato often
irritate the throat and may choke. Make sure no
tape touches baby's skin when bathing never have high pressure of water,
high pressure can tear skin. Warm water is best, even if its 100
degrees. We have thinner skin so are normally very cold after a
bath/shower even if it was warm. Never use pointy scissors cutting
bandages, use the one with the edge at end, special scissors. And never
cut the wrappings FAST you never know when it might stick and you can
tear a whole thing of skin, real painful! If your child does not trust
you with scissors or has A LOT of wounds, take them off slowly by hand,
unwrapping. BEST ADVICE I think is BE PATIENT, I know you might
get frustrated at times doing this everyday for a long time until your
child is a teenager and can learn his/her self hopefully. What patient eats now:
I can and do eat anything I want from meats to chips to lobster to
tacos, however some products I avoid because of higher risk of choking,
stuff like lettuce. I chew my food very well before every swallow. I
never used a g-tube in my 21 yrs of life. As a kid I took ensure plus, I
hated it! and still do, it's so nasty, however the best way to deal with
ensure is make a milkshake out of it! Then its drinkable. Today though I
drink boost or carnation, anything in high vitamins and taste good will
work.
Misc Supplies used:
Shoes - any kind of shoes I can wear however I put a dr scholls foot pad
(think that's the name) in my shoes, to make more comfortable and soft. Always when shopping for
shoes remember to get a good withy. Bed -
sheepskin, very comfortable Clothes - I can wear
any type of clothes Underneath - Sometimes I do
wear an adult diaper called Attends (also covered by insurance) Mainly
if I have a wound on my bottom. I don't want to
wear underwear because cotton will stick bad to it worse than a diaper
would. If there's no wound I wear regular boxers.
Products used for Wound
care: 1. Xeroform dressing, I have used
this all my life and it works very well on the open wounds. 2. kerlix gauze 3. elastic
net (to hold gauze in place) 4. aquafor (its an
ointment to help dry skin, also rub on dressings to heal better 5. non stick skin tape, I use tape if my shoulder
or back is wounded, i never used elastic net for shoulder/back, that
would be very un comfortable, tape does the job.
But even if it is non stick tape always be weary and make sure tape
cannot touch skin at all. .
Wrapping Instructions:
I take showers and have one of them sit
down bathtub chairs things. My tub and shower are one. So I place the
bath chair middle of the tub, enough room where i can stand in front of
it and shower. I sit on the chair and take all of my wrappings off. The
chair will be hard so what you do is, get a old pillow, put a plastic
grocery bag on the pillow so skin wont stick to pillow and when water
hits it, it will flow off the plastic. Then the chair isn't hard. After
I take a long shower, if tired of standing up I simply take a rest on
the bath chair right behind my knees. I use ivory non fragrance soap and
put it on one of them wash balls (don't know what their called lol) has
a string on end, its easier than holding the soap. Also I don't put the
water pressure high because this will cause tear to skin. After shower I get out, step my feet on the
bathroom rug so wont slip. And dry self with towel. Then I drain out any
water from pillow on bathroom chair into bathtub, sit on it and wrap
myself there. If my back and shoulders are fine I put my shirt on first.
I start with hands first. I start by putting Aquaphor on the Xeroform
dressing, and apply to any wounds on hands, arm , elbows. If I have a
wound inside the finger, I cut a small long strip of Xeroform dressing
and apply dressing gently inside of finger. I then fold the Kerlix gauze
once over, and wrap around palm of hand 3-4 times then make my way down
to hand. If there's a wound in finger cut thin long strip of the gauze
and place gently in wounded finger on the dressing. Then go over palm
and wrap hand with gauze. If nothing is on my arm I do not wrap it, and
let the skin breathe. If there's a wound I wrap gauze from hand to up to
elbow, if the wound is a big wound and is known to bleed I wrap over it
extra. Then I apply elastic net to hold gauze, cut a small whole in
elastic net and place over thumb. Next i do my
feet, again I cut the dressings, apply Aquaphor on dressing and apply on
any wound on feet, legs , knees. When wrapping feet I always make sure its wrapped real good, covering toes 3-4
times and around foot, and cover the back heel up to legs. If no wound
on legs I do not wrap and let it breathe. I then wrap my knee
ALWAYS wound or not, for protection. After I cut the elastic net and
apply on foot/legs/knee. Again if a wound is bad, always wrap extra, for
less or no blood to appear. And again if theirs a wound inside of toe
then repeat process as a wound from finger. Thighs I wrap the same way if theirs a wound on a
thigh, usually theirs not but sometimes they are. Shoulders and back - very difficult to wrap alone
and I suggest getting help with the shoulders and back from family
member once your done with wrapping everything
else. To wrap back take gauze and start from upper armpit and wrap
around a few times up to shoulder and around shoulder and close to neck,
then take more gauze and wrap around shoulder once then start your way
under armpit rolling gauze around back and chest (not too tight!).
Shoulders and back is the hardest and will take practice. Then apply non
stick skin tape around shoulder and making your way under armpit and
wrap around back and chest. If the gauze is high up on neck, cut and
trim it with scissors. For wounds on buttocks or
side of hips or lower back, there isn't much you can do wrapping besides
applying Xeroform dressing on buttocks and side of hips and then
applying underwear over. However most likely it will stick because of
cotton, making it painful to take off if you have to hurry and go to
bathroom. So my suggestion is wear a diaper, apply baby powder. It will
most likely not stick. Then if you don't have any wounds on
buttocks/hips then wear regular boxers/underwear. Also for blisters on anywhere on body, I pop them
first with a sterilized blister needle, and drain good. And I think
that's pretty much it. It will take some getting
use to wrapping up yourself but over the months and yrs you will get
faster at it, and find your own way to do things. On a good day, if i don't have any wounds on my
shoulders/back. it will take me a good 45 mins to an hr from getting in
shower to finishing wrapping. If wounds are bad
and I just feel drained that day, it could take up to 2 hrs. Also I never had a major problems on my face and
never needed dressing or bandaged. I have a pretty strong clear face.
And ears.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: Yes
Name of your insurance
company: Medical - was on CCS (California Children's Services) until
age 21. Now medical pays for everything. I never had to pay for
anything.
City and State of where
these Drs are: Stockton, California
Filling out form:
Parent/Caregiver
Patient name: Abriana
"Abbi" W. 5yrs old
Form of EB: Recessive
Dystrophic - Hallopeau Siemens unable to diagnose
Used for Itching:
Atarax - 1 tsp at bedtime
Laxatives used: Miralax
- 1/2 cap full every other day.
Esophagus/throat medicines
used: Abbi uses a very soft toothbrush provided by her dentist. This
help prevent any damage to the gums and works real well on the teeth.
She uses Act mouthwash to brush and rinse. Abbi had most of her baby
teeth pilled when she was two yrs old because her gums were not doing
well. Her permanent teeth are coming now and she seems to be doing much
better.
Other Medicines used:
Prilosec - 1 1/2 tsp twice a day. not working real well for her
reflux. Multi vitamin - 1/2 oz. once a day. Omega three oil - 1 tsp
every day. Noni Juice - 1/2 oz. once a day. protein bars - 1/4 of a bar
once a day. Abbi dies very well with her vitamins. they really do
help with her energy and healing.
Hints for babies (diaper):
the first year i used cloth diapers with a disposable diaper
over. After the first year I used huggies supremes and they worked
great.
Hints for babies
(feeding): Abbi could not latch on for breast feeding but I did pump
and Abbi used a Haberman feeder. She did great with that I after
the breast milk she moved on to Similac she gained very well on just
that and did not need any supplement until after the first year and then
she was placed on pediasure with fiber and has been on that
since.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: No
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Parent/Caregiver
Patient name: Shane
G./4mths
Form of EB: Shane has a
severe form of RDEB.
Esophagus/throat medicines
used: Magic mouthwash, about .5ml before feeding. I just squirt it
in and let him kinda swish it around and swallow it. Magic Mouthwash is
a combo of Benadryl, Maalox, lidocane, and a steroid. It has made an
unbelievable difference. His pain has been dramatically decreased
because the majority of his pain was coming from in his mouth and
throat.
Other Medicines used:
5ml - 1ml morphine with dressing changes. Not working that well, he has
become so tolerant. ..1ml multivitamin ..35 ml zinc ..5ml prevacid
for reflux.
Important Hints: YES,
the hospital sent me home after he was released with Vaseline and gauze.
His dressings fell off a couple times a day, plus dressing changes were
everyday and very painful for him. We now use Mepitel, Mepilex, Mepilex
lite, and Tube fast instead of surginet or pronet. His dressings can be
changed every 2-3 days instead, his healing is so much faster, his skin
looks so much better, and he is so much more comfortable.
Hints for babies (diaper):
We use
FuzziBuns cloth diapers. They are incredibly soft. At night we just cut
the tabs off a disposable diaper and stick it right inside the Fuzzibuns
diaper instead of it's liner and he stays dry all night. His diaper area
is completely clear. In the morning when we know his is going to have
his a.m. bowl movement we just cut the elastic out of White Cloud
diapers (at Walmart)
Hints for babies
(feeding): We use the Haberman Nipple. We also make sure the
nipple is wet or we lube it up with KY jelly. He drinks Good Start
formula and is on a high calorie recipe.
Misc Hints for babies:
Tubefast is by far my favorite product. Before I discovered it I was
cutting up tights. Mepilex works great for knees and
elbows.
Products used for Wound
care: Mepitel - cut 1" wide to wrap each
finger Mepitel - 3.5 x 8 cut with 4 slits to
slip each finger through to protect web spacing in hands Conform - 1" wide to ABC wrap fingers and hands Mepilex light - cut to make a "boot" to protect
feet and heals Mepitel - cut 1/2 " wide to wrap
toes Mepitel - cut 3" wide by 6" long with 4
slits to slip toes through to protect webbing Mepilex- cut in squares or circles for knees Mepilex lite- for underneath arms down to elbows Mepitel- cut to protect all wounds Tubefast- over dressings on feet all the way up to
past knees to keep all dressings in place and to protect, also smaller
size on hands with a small hole for thumb up to passed his elbows to
keep dressings in place and to protect skin.
Does the Insurance pay for
supplies: Yes
Name of your insurance
company: MA - Shane is our Foster Child
Who pays for supplies:
For things not covered by insurance, we
do.
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